Nixon White House TapesTape 772 › Conversation 772-014

Nixon, Bull & Brooke on 1972 Presidential Campaign and Economic Policy

Thursday, September 7, 1972 · 4:31 PM–4:49 PM ET · Oval Office ·4 min

President Nixon hosted a group of Republican candidates and officials for a photograph session, followed by a policy discussion with key economic advisors including George P. Shultz, Arthur F. Burns, and John D. Ehrlichman. The latter portion of the meeting focused on 1972 presidential campaign strategy, specifically addressing George McGovern’s recent public statements and potential outreach to George Meany. Participants also reviewed proposals regarding tax reform and broader economic policy in the context of the upcoming election.

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Where do you want me to stand?
All right.
All right.
All right.
I told you we're going to have to move.
I told you we're going to have to move.
You can have it.
Come back in.
It's me.
I'm waiting.
.
That's right. .
Go talk to Bob at Otter Town and just lay it in there and say what you want of it.
Let me ask you this, I guess it's true that you don't know that my team, Bobby and Terrence, I think that they attacked the pool.
They were pretty shaggy from Disney's end.
And those two were attacking the pool.
And those two, I don't know, I just don't know.
I got it from a show that's on.
And it's just, you know, it's like, so it's down for us.
Okay.
Okay.
Okay.
Okay.

On September 7, 1972, President Richard M. Nixon, Stephen B. Bull, Edward W. Brooke, James R. Grover, William L. Scott, Dewey F. Bartlett, Peter V. Domenici, Jesse A. Helms, Ben C. Taledano, Jack Hawke, Ed Johnson, Bill Kid, Gene Taylor, David C. Treen, David Seratkin, Christopher S. Bond, Otis Bowen, James Holzhouser, Morris Kay, Richard Larson, Carveth Thompson, Harry S. Dent, John E. Nidecker, Richard K. Cook, George P. Shultz, Arthur F. Burns, and John D. Ehrlichman met in the Oval Office of the White House from 4:31 pm to 4:49 pm. The Oval Office taping system captured this recording, which is known as Conversation 772-014 of the White House Tapes.

Conversation No. 772-14

Date: September 7, 1972
Time: 4:32 pm - 4:49 pm
Location: Oval Office

The President met with Stephen B. Bull.

             The President’s schedule
                 -John D. Ehrlichman
                 -Cufflinks
                     -Number of Senators
                 -Photograph session
                     -Arrangements
                 -Cufflinks

                                          (rev. Oct-06)

Edward W. Brooke, James R. Grover, William L. Scott, Dewey F. Bartlett, Peter V. Dominici,
Jesse A. Helms, Ben C. Taledano, Jack Hawke, Edward Johnson, Bill Kid, Gene Taylor, David
C. Treen, David Seratkin, Christopher S. (“Kit”) Bond, Otis Bowen, James Holzhouser, Morris
Kay, Richard Larsen, Carveth Thompson, Harry S. Dent, John E. Nidecker, and Richard K.
Cook entered at 4:32 pm.

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BEGIN WITHDRAWN ITEM NO. 1
[Personal returnable]
[Duration: 14m 45s    ]

END WITHDRAWN ITEM NO. 1

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[General conversation]

Brooke, et al., except Helms, left at 4:46 pm.

Bull entered at an unknown time after 4:46 pm.

             The President's schedule
                 -Arthur F. Burns
                     -H.R. (“Bob”) Haldeman

Bull left at an unknown time before 4:47 pm.

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BEGIN WITHDRAWN ITEM NO. 2
[Personal returnable]
[Duration: 31s        ]

END WITHDRAWN ITEM NO. 2

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                                       (rev. Oct-06)

George P. Shultz, Burns, and Ehrlichman entered at 4:47 pm.

            1972 Presidential Campaign
                -George S. McGovern's statement
                -Conversation with H.R. (“Bob”) Haldeman

            National economy
                -Tax reform proposals

            1972 Campaign
                -Democratic Party
                -Strategy
                     -George Meany

Helms left at an unknown time before 4:49 pm.
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Conversation 772-014, September 7, 1972. White House Tapes, Richard Nixon Presidential Library and Museum, National Archives. Audio and AI transcript via Easy Nixon, https://www.easynixon.org/tapes/772-014 (accessed September 18, 2026).