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Conversation 003-073

TapeTape 3StartWednesday, May 19, 1971 at 7:48 PMEndWednesday, May 19, 1971 at 7:50 PMTape start time01:35:01Tape end time01:37:36ParticipantsNixon, Richard M. (President);  Haldeman, H. R. ("Bob")Recording deviceWhite House Telephone
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On May 19, 1971, President Richard M. Nixon and H. R. ("Bob") Haldeman talked on the telephone from 7:48 pm to 7:50 pm. The White House Telephone taping system captured this recording, which is known as Conversation 003-073 of the White House Tapes.

Nixon Library Finding Aid
conversation 003-073.]

The President talked with H.R. (“Bob”) Haldeman; background noise can be heard in the original
recording.

     Mathias Resolution
         -Vote
               -Congressional relations [?] staff
                     -Vice President's office, Senate galleries

                  -Possible future amendment

     Mansfield Amendment
         -Senate debate

     Mathias Resolution
         -John Sherman Cooper
               -President's call
                     -Timing
         -Effect of vote
               -Mansfield Amendment

     Mansfield Amendment
         -Forthcoming vote
               -Factors

     Mathias
          -Effect on Mathias Resolution
          -Possible future amendment

     Calls
             -Haldeman to President
             -President to Cooper
             -Haldeman to William P. Rogers

                                                                             Conversation No. 003-074

Date: May 19, 1971
Time: Unknown between 7:50 pm and 7:55 pm
Location: White House Telephone

The President talked with the White House operator.

     Call to Henry A. Kissinger
Transcript (AI-Generated)

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Hello.
Yes, sir.
Yeah.
I heard that Mathias lost.
Yeah, by 73 to 20.
Unbelievable.
Well, maybe they're trying to figure it out now.
Our guys are over at the left side.
Yeah.
But they think there may be something funny going on.
Like what?
Another amendment?
Yeah.
Because they can't imagine how the boat could have been that lopsided.
And apparently there are people with us that they have no reason to believe would be.
So there might be a deal on another amendment, is that it?
That's what they're thinking, because there were several amendments that were withdrawn that have the option of we removing them.
Yes.
And they can come back on, so they may have mobilized on some other device, although they ran the full course on the Bay Line, if I remember correctly.
They're now in a debase period on Mansfield, but Mansfield can deal with the...
Yeah.
Well, I was going to call Cooper and thank him.
I'm going to wait.
You better wait.
You're damn right.
Because I'm not sure what he's up to.
Right.
It may have worked.
I mean, it may be that Cooper got the word wrong.
I don't know.
I said, look, you know, because we gave them both a hint that something was coming.
Yeah.
Well, that might have worked, and that may do it.
If so, it's going to be a hell of a...
Hell of a boat, because Cooper, I mean, Manfield will go down by at least that much.
Now, he'll get more boats than that, because people do it because of their personal feeling for him, but it'll still win.
As long as they know it's going to move.
Yeah.
That's the other thing.
There's so many of Nathan and I that they could... Oh, you think that's it?
Oh.
That was one of the things they raised this morning, was that...
An awful lot of people just don't want to support Mathias.
Good.
Because they don't like the guy.
Which might be also the reason that there might be another vote.
But our guys are working there.
Call me as soon as we know what the final verdict is, and then I'll call Cooper, but not before.
Okay.
Good, good.
Call Bill.
You call Bill and tell him that congratulations on Mathias.
But we're watching the rest, will you?
Sure.
Good.
Okay.
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